In the wake of the announcement of a National Recovery Plan, detailing a four-phase exit plan for the nation, we speak to Azrul Mohd Khalib, CEO at Galen Centre for Health & Social Policy on whether the government's expectations are realistic and when we can hope to see an actual exit out of the current Covid-19 pandemic.

Produced by: Lyn Mak, Roshan Kanesan

Presented by: Lyn Mak, Noelle Lim, Roshan Kanesan

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