BFM 89.9

HIGHLIGHTS 
Podcast  >  Enterprise  >  Open For Business  >  Bengbeng Sourdough: The Next ZUS, But For Sandwiches?

Bengbeng Sourdough: The Next ZUS, But For Sandwiches?

Gan Jun Qi, Co-Founder, Bengbeng Sourdough | Tan Chia Heng, Co-Founder, Bengbeng Sourdough

15-Jan-25 10:00

Bengbeng Sourdough: The Next ZUS, But For Sandwiches?

A pregnancy craving launched an online sourdough bakery that now wants to be the homemade alternative to Subway and O’Briens. In this episode, we explore how this husband-wife duo shifted from online to B2B and B2C retail—testing cloud kitchens, kiosk models, and central production to carve a niche in Malaysia’s competitive F&B space. DIve into how they balance product quality, branding, and expansion plans as they strive to become a go-to local sandwich chain.

Here are some AI-generated highlights of key areas covered in the conversation:

- Pandemic Beginnings: What started as a personal sourdough craving in Kota Bharu led to an online store and unexpected demand, fueling the move into the Klang Valley.

- Cloud Kitchen Trials: To minimise overhead, the business initially relied on a cloud kitchen model, offering a lower-risk way to test the market in Kuala Lumpur.

- B2B to B2C Pivot: After supplying major retail marts, the founders realised that consignment-based sales lacked control, steering them to build their own brand presence via brick-and-mortar outlets.

- Focus on Sandwiches: Adapting to local breakfast and lunch habits, they are shifting to a sandwich-centric model—blending artisanal sourdough with grab-and-go convenience to meet Malaysia’s F&B needs.

- Scaling with Central Kitchens: Centralising production ensures consistent product quality while reducing costs, allowing for multiple retail kiosks and expansion into mature neighborhoods.

- Balancing Costs and Margins: They share insights on navigating overhead challenges, from refining kiosk concepts to adjusting product offerings, in pursuit of healthier profit margins.

- Sights on Expansion: Future plans include opening more sandwich outlets, securing potential funding through equity sales, and leveraging strategic partnerships while maintaining control of product quality.

- A Homegrown Vision: Aiming to become a recognised local sandwich brand—on par with global chains—the founders remain committed to artisanal quality and a distinctly Malaysian identity.

Produced by: Roshan Kanesan

Presented by: Roshan Kanesan


This and more than 60,000 other podcasts in your hand. Download the all new BFM mobile app.

Categories:  marketsmanagingentrepreneursfood

Tags:  sourdough bakeryartisanal breadF&B pivotB2B to B2Ccloud kitchen modelkiosk conceptlocal sandwich chain





Play / Pause

Listen now : Best of The Bigger Picture: (REPEAT) Professor Jomo Kwame Sundaram breaks down...

Today’s Shows



11:00 AM

Best of Enterprise

(REPEAT) Dr. Carmelo Ferlito, CEO of the Center for Market Education, joins us to break down the flawed logic behind the U.S. tariff calculations, the broader risks of a global trade war, and what Malaysian businesses and policymakers should do in response.

12:00 PM

Just For Kicks

(REPEAT) Kam and his pundits break down the midweek European action, as well as look ahead to Matchweek 32 of the EPL.

1:00 PM

A Bit of Culture

(REPEAT) Kam and his trusted sidekicks, Dhanya Nair and Julian Yap get together again to talk about what Kam has learned after publishing his new book, how do you know you’re an adult and the joy of missing out!

2:00 PM

Ringgit & Sense

(REPEAT) Ringgit and Sense producer Jake Lim speaks to Jennifer Chua, licensed Financial Advisor at UOB Kay Hian to discuss what’s involved in planning for your parents’ aged care.

2:30 PM

The Property Show

(REPEAT) Siva Shanker, the CEO of Real Estate Agency of Rahim & Co International takes us through his observations of 2024, the first quarter of 2025 and how the rest of this year might shape up in the property world.

3:00 PM

Best of The Bigger Picture

(REPEAT) Professor Jomo Kwame Sundaram breaks down the effect of Trump’s tariffs on neoliberalism and the dollar dominance.

4:00 PM

Best of Evening Edition

(REPEAT) Malaysian poet Jack Malik talks about the evolution of Malaysian poetry and how our multilingualism and rich cultural history shape the art form.

5:00 PM

BBC World Service

BFM presents the BBC World Service, which provides in-depth coverage of issues from around the world.